Tony Alamo Guilty On All 10 Counts



Jurors convict evangelist on 10 sex-abuse counts
By JON GAMBRELL (AP) – 29 minutes ago

TEXARKANA, Ark. — Tony Alamo, a one-time street preacher who built a multimillion-dollar ministry and became an outfitter of the stars, was convicted Friday of taking girls as young as 9 across state lines for sex.

Alamo stood silently as the verdict was read, a contrast to his occasional mutterings during testimony. His five victims sat looking forward in the gallery. One, a woman he "married" at age 8, wiped away a tear.

"I'm just another one of the prophets that went to jail for the Gospel," Alamo called to reporters afterward as he was escorted to a waiting U.S. marshal's vehicle.

Shouts of "Bye, bye, Bernie" — Alamo was born Bernie Lazar Hoffman — came from a crowd gathered on the Arkansas side of the courthouse, which straddles the Texas-Arkansas border.

Jurors were convinced Alamo had had sex with the girls when they were underage, but deliberated for more than a day to ensure that they considered everything, jury foreman Frank Oller of Texarkana said.

"That was the evidence. That was proven," Oller said. "We came up with a full decision that we are quite satisfied with."

Defense lawyer Don Ervin said the evidence against the 74-year-old preacher was insufficient and that the preacher would appeal. He also said Alamo's criminal history — he served four years in prison on tax charges in the 1990s — "will hurt him" at sentencing in six to eight weeks.

"We believe he will face the rest of his natural life in prison," said Assistant U.S. Attorney Kyra Jenner. The penalties on the 10 charges total 175 years in prison, she said, and violations of the century-old Mann Act also carry fines of up to $250,000 each.

The five women, now age 17 to 33, told jurors that Alamo "married" them in private ceremonies while they were minors, sometimes giving them wedding rings. Each detailed trips beyond Arkansas' borders for Alamo's sexual gratification.

Alamo never testified. Though he announced to reporters that he wanted to, his lawyers told him he should not directly challenge their testimony and the attorneys argued to jurors that the girls traveled for legitimate church business.

State and federal agents raided Alamo's compound last Sept. 20 after repeated reports of abuse. Defense lawyers said the government targeted Alamo because it doesn't like his apocalyptic brand of Christianity. Alamo has blamed the Vatican for his legal troubles, which include a four-year prison term for tax evasion in the 1990s.

With little physical evidence, prosecutors relied on the women's stories to paint an emotional portrait of a charismatic religious leader who controlled every aspect of his subjects' lives. No one obtained food, clothing or transportation without him knowing about it.

At times, men were ordered away from the compound and their wives kept as another Alamo bride. Minor offenses from either gender drew beatings or starvation fasts.

In the end, prosecutors convinced jurors in Arkansas' conservative Christian climate that Alamo's ministry offered him the opportunity to prey on the young girls of loyal followers who believed him to be a prophet who spoke directly to God. They described a ministry that ran on the fear of drawing the anger of "Papa Tony."

"You really appreciate the courage that they showed stepping up to face their demons," said Thomas Browne, the special agent in charge of the FBI office at Little Rock.

Alamo remained defiant during the trial. He openly referred to the Branch Davidian raid at Waco, Texas, muttered expletives during testimony and fell asleep at times — while alleged victims spoke from the witness stand and again as prosecutors urged his conviction.

He had built his multistate ministry on the backs of followers who worked in various businesses to support the church. In the 1980s, he designed and sold elaborately decorated denim jackets, hobnobbed with celebrities and owned a compound in western Arkansas that featured a heart-shaped swimming pool.

Federal agents seized a large portion of his assets in the 1990s to settle tax claims after courts declared his operations a business, not a church. Among items offered for auction were the plans for the studded jacket Michael Jackson wore on his "Bad" album.

The Southern Poverty Law Center considers his ministry a cult.

The woman considered to be Alamo's common-law wife, Sharon Alamo, and several other of his 100-200 followers missed the verdict, hustling up the courthouse stairs and entering an empty courtroom five minutes after court adjourned.

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Jurors have found Tony Alamo guilty on all 10 counts of child-sex charges. Each count carries a minimum sentence of 10 years in prison and a $250,000 fine.

Jurors arrived at the Texarkana federal courthouse at 8:30 a.m. Friday. They spent 8 1/2 hours discussing the 10-count federal indictment against the 74-year-old Alamo on Thursday.

Jurors paused twice to ask questions of the judge. The court won't say what they were about. Alamo's attorneys said it was about clarification of the Mann Act.

Prosecutors allege Alamo took five underage girls across state lines for sex as far back as 1994. They claim one was as young as 9 and was "married" to the evangelist.

Defense attorneys say the girls traveled on legitimate business for Alamo's ministry, which espouses an apocalyptic form of Christianity.

The Faces of Meth and a Foster Parent

Attention, This is a 2016 edit of this page. It has been exposed that "Faces of Meth" is propaganda tailor made for the bogus war on drugs. Also read this (Crack Then. Meth Now.) for your own education. It turns out Meth is actually virtually the same drug as Adderall which is liberally prescribed by doctors all over the world. Please read this article and this article to read the details.

But that doesn't remove the hypocrisy of state agencies and people involved in the story below.



This woman looks as if she lost her soul.. Look at more pics

Look at what a former Meth Lab did to a family's health after they moved into the house. ~Story

Now read this article:

"Lawton foster mother arrested after meth lab found in home with kids"

Michigan authorities removed two children from a licensed Van Buren County foster mother Tuesday evening after finding an active meth lab in the home.

The lab was discovered when the Lawton Police Department, assisted by other agencies, investigated possible methamphetamine production and found evidence in the home’s basement.

That’s when police also discovered that the small children were placed with the 51-year-old foster mother, the Van Buren County Sheriff’s Department said in a press release.

They were returned to Child Protective Services for relocation by Berrien County, since that’s where their custody cases originate.

Police plan to file meth manufacturing charges against the woman, whose name has not been publicly released.

-end article-

I wish Foster Homes would be overly scrutinized like parents are..

Al Zimmerman, DCF, Arrested On CHILD PORN Charges


TAMPA, Fla. — A former spokesman for Florida's child welfare agency was sentenced to more than 24 years in prison Friday for taking nude photos of teenage boys, including a 16-year-old under the agency's care.

Al Zimmerman's arrest prompted a review of hiring policies and personnel files at the Florida Department of Children and Families to make sure every employee has had a criminal background check. The former TV newsman pleaded guilty in January to a charge of producing child pornography. Other charges were dropped as part of a plea agreement.

Zimmerman apologized to the victims and his family.

"I keep hoping I'll wake up from this, that it's a bad dream," he said. "I've pretty much destroyed my life."

U.S. District Judge Susan C. Bucklew sentenced Zimmerman to 24 years, four months, which was at the lower end of the sentencing guidelines.

One of his attorneys, Eric Kuske, said Zimmerman waived an opportunity to argue for a lower sentence because he wanted to save his family and the victims the humiliation of having details of the crimes recounted in court.

"Most of my tears have been for the people who have suffered for my mistakes," Zimmerman told the judge.

Prosecutor Colleen Murphy-Davis said Zimmerman preying on a child in the foster care system was "the ultimate insult." Zimmerman was the public face and media liaison for the child welfare agency.

Prosecutors said in court documents that Zimmerman paid one boy for sending him photos and took his own photos of the boy posing nude and masturbating.

The boy told investigators his friends began gathering at Zimmerman's house, where they were given alcohol, the document said. Zimmerman lived in Lakeland in central Florida and part-time in Tallahassee.

Another boy told investigators he photographed himself nude with his cell phone camera on five or six occasions and sent the photos to Zimmerman, who then sent him money.

The documents also detailed explicit e-mails authorities said Zimmerman sent to one of the boys describing poses and activities he wanted in photographs to get top dollar from overseas pornographers.

After learning that he was being investigated, Zimmerman asked a child welfare agency computer technician to throw his home computer in an outdoor trash container so authorities couldn't get access to it, prosecutors said.

Ashton Lundeby, 16, is being held under the USA Patriot Act

http://www.wral.com/news/local/video/5050332/

Teen's mom questions Patriot Act

Ashton Lundeby, 16, is being held under the USA Patriot Act on a criminal complaint that a bomb threat was made from his Oxford home the night of Feb. 15.

State probes apparent suicide of foster child, 7


State probes apparent suicide of foster child, 7

A work group has been appointed to investigate factors leading up to a 7-year-old foster child's apparent suicide.


BY CAROL MARBIN MILLER
cmarbin@MiamiHerald.com



Gabriel Myers, the 7-year-old Broward boy who hanged himself in
the shower of his foster home.


Florida's top child-welfare administrator has appointed a work group to look into the April 16 death of Gabriel Myers, the 7-year-old boy who took his own life at a Broward County foster home after a stormy nine-month odyssey through the state foster-care system.

At the top of the priority list for Department of Children & Families Secretary George Sheldon will be an examination of the state's reliance on psychiatric drugs for children in state care.

`CHEMICAL RESTRAINTS'

The issue has troubled the department since the early 2000s, when a Broward child advocate claimed the drugs were being used as ''chemical restraints'' on unruly children.

Sheldon has asked administrators to begin reviewing the files of 2,200 children, or about seven percent of those in state care, to determine precisely which medications the children are being administered, he said. Gabriel, who was originally from Ohio, had been prescribed a handful of mind-altering drugs in his final months, DCF has said.

''I have serious concerns about a 7-year-old on the number of medications he was on,'' Sheldon said. Because DCF acts as the parent for foster kids, Sheldon said, the agency must ensure that children are being administered only the medications they truly need.

''It is difficult for any of us to comprehend how a child so young could have deliberately and consciously made the decision to end his life,'' Sheldon said. ``But in order to help prevent this type of tragedy from happening again, it is critical we review all available information to determine the factors that led to Gabriel's death.''

Overseeing the work will be Jim Sewell, a former deputy commissioner of the Florida Department of Law Enforcement, who has been working with Sheldon in recent months. Sheldon said he expects the review to be thorough, and he hopes Sewell's law enforcement background will help the team dig deeply into the boy's troubled past.

Gabriel came into state care in June when his mother was found nearly unconscious in a car with the boy in a Denny's parking lot. Inside the car were several prescription drugs, including Xanax. Reports said Candace Myers had dozed so deeply she did not notice that officers had taken the boy.

BOUNCED AROUND

In coming months, Gabriel lived with a maternal uncle, then moved to a foster home, and then to another home in Margate, and through it all his condition worsened. On April 16, he got into a squabble with the 19-year-old son of his foster father, announced his intention to kill himself, and then hanged himself from a detachable metal shower cord.

Sheldon said he also will ask the work group to study the state's handling of children who have been the victims of sexual abuse, and who then go on to seek other victims. Records show Gabriel had been molested by an older boy in Ohio, and had begun to act out sexually among other children.

Hitler's Death Camps - Holocaust . . . or Inquisition?

Battle Cry
"Am I therefore become your enemy, because I tell you the truth?"
Gal. 4:16


Hitler's Death Camps
Holocaust . . . or Inquisition?



Issue Date: January/February 1989


Dr. Alberto Rivera, ex-Jesuit priest, says "holocaust" is the wrong word. He prefers "inquisition." "The Jews have not let us forget the Nazi slaughter of their people, but no one has continued to remind us of the other four to six million non-Jews also executed," he points out.


Bohdan Wytwycky in "The Other Holocaust" documents seven million non-Jewish civilian victims of the Nazi death machine in Poland, Ukraine and Belorussia. Historians suggest that the death camps and gas chambers were used specifically against the Jews, yet no serious investigation has been directed toward this even larger number of non-Jews who were executed. Dr Rivera states that in his training as a Jesuit he was taught that the Vatican manipulated the Nazi death machine not just against Jews, but more broadly against ` all "heretics."



When we remember that the Jesuits were specifically established to counter the "heresy" of the Reformation and that that objective has not changed, we are constrained to examine this other group of victims more carefully. Other books published by Chick Publications such as Secret History of the Jesuits by Paris, Godfathers and Smokescreens by Jack Chick, document the Vatican's support of Hitler's rise to power. History also proves that the Vatican has used every available means to stamp out "heretics." Romanism defines heretics as anyone who does not give blind obedience to the pope. Her treatment of them is most currently illustrated by the bloodshed in North Ireland and the attempt to turn South Vietnam into a Catholic dictatorship under President Diem just prior to the Vietnam War.


In that case, the "heretics" were the Buddhists who had to torch themselves in the streets to get enough world attention to stop their inquisition. Many of them converted to Catholicism under the persecution. ("Vietnam, Why Did We Go?" by Avro Manhattan.) The most detailed evidence available that many of these World War II executions resulted from the refusal to convert to Catholicism comes from Croatia. Avro Manhattan in his book, "Catholic Terror Today," provides extensive photo and documented evidence of the inquisitional nature of the war.


Upon the disintegration of Yugoslavia, Ante Pavelitch became the leader of the independent Catholic state of Croatia under the protection of Mussolini and Hitler. Pope Pius XII also supported him with diplomacy and money. When he was firmly in control, he issued an ultimatum to the non-Catholic population (heretics): convert to Catholicism or die. Most of them were Eastern Orthodox and their churches were closed, parish documents destroyed and worshipers often arrested, imprisoned in their own churches and set on fire. Those who did not convert were submitted to unbelievable torture or were slaughtered outright. (See Smokescreens, chapter 3.)




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Intereligious Dialogue in New Jersey



Let's look at the combination of people involved in this "intereligious dialogue" (Or "Interfaith Dialogue"). You have the media, The Roman catholic church, the FBI, the Child "Protection" Agency of NJ, The Governor of NJ and much more.

Interfaith Dialog Center awards NJ notables

Master of Ceremonies



Kent Manahan, Senior Anchor, NJN News

AWARDEES

Community Service Awards



Governor Jon S. Corzine

The IDC recognizes the Hon. Corzine for his efforts to restore the state's fiscal viability and to improve the economy in this recessionary time, as well as his contributions to tolerance and dialogue in NJ. Governor Corzine was introduced by Sen. Loretta Weinberg, District 37.



Mr. Weysan Dun, Special Agent in Charge of FBI Newark Division

The IDC recognizes Special Agent Dun for his continued fight for a safer New Jersey and building bridges between law enforcement and the Muslim community in New Jersey. Mr. Dun was introduced by Mr. Thomas E. Durkin, Jr., Durkin & Durkin, LLP. (Jesuit Schooled, Knight of the Order of Saint Gregory the Great)

Peace and Tolerance Awards



Bishop Arthur Serratelli, RC Diocese of Paterson

The IDC recognizes Bishop Serratelli for his valuable contributions to Christian-Muslim dialogue in Northern New Jersey. Rev. Msgr. James T. Mahoney, Vicar General, introduced the Bishop.



Rabbi Jack Bemporad, Director, Center for Interreligious Understanding

The IDC recognizes Rabbi Bemporad for his efforts to improve Jewish-Christian-Muslim dialogue in our local community and worldwide. Prof. Robert M. Seltzer, Hunter College and the Graduate School of the City University of New York presented Rabbi Bemporad.

Media Award



Ms. Elizabeth Christopherson, Executive Director, NJN

The IDC recognizes Ms. Christopherson for her vision and commitment to improve New Jersey Network (NJN) Public Television and Radio as a family oriented network that respects and encourages diversity. She was presented by Dr. Clement Price, Director of Institute on Ethnicity, Culture, and the Modern Experience, Rutgers University introduced Ms. Christopherson.

Education Award



Public Service Enterprise Group (PSEG)

PSEG is recognized by the Interfaith Dialog Center for its strong commitment to educational development in the community, thereby contributing to the success of New Jersey's future. PSEG was introduced by Dr. Mesut Sahin, NJIT.

IDC Special Recognition Award



Dr. Maxine Beach, Vice President and Dean of School of Theology, Drew University

Dr. Beach is recognized for her exceptional contributions to interfaith dialogue activities and collaboration with the Turkish community. Dr. Laurel Kearns presented Dr. Beach.


Date: Sunday June 8, 2008

Time: 6:00 pm.

Venue:

Hilton Hasbrouck Heights/Meadowlands

650 Terrace Avenue

Hasbrouck Heights, NJ 07604


Media Sponsor




ACKNOWLEDGEMENT

We thank them for buying a table (10 seats).

- Istikbal Furniture, Clifton

- Center for Interreligious Understanding

- Ebru TV

- RC Diocese of Paterson

We thank them for their contributions.

- Ms. Anne Evans Estabrook (Elberon Development Co.)

- Mr. Bob Almberg

- Rev. Jane T. Brady




I just found that this Thomas E. Durkin Jr. (the one who presented the award to the Newark FBI SAC) is a Knight of the Order of Saint Gregory the Great and graduated from [Jesuit] Fordham

Fordham University School of Law ( J.D., 1952)

Fordham University ( B.A., 1949)

http://durkinlawfirm.com/profile-durkin-jr.jsp

So you have a Bishop, an FBI boss and a Jesuit Schooled Knight having a nice chat.



Bishop Arthur J. Serratelli, (ctr) Diocese of Paterson, was awarded the Peace & Tolerance Award while Weysan Dun, special agent in charge of FBI Newark office, was given a Community Service Award at the awards dinner. They are with Thomas Durkin, Jr. an attorney who introduced Dun.



Honoree Weysan Dun, special agent in charge of FBI Newark office speaks with Brian Reich, deputy chief, Bergen County Justice Center, Hackensack. Behind them are Marge Caldwell, New Jersey Dept. of Children & Families (DYFS), Trenton and Patrick Brannigan, ex. dir. New Jersey Catholic Conference.

Obama Selects Jesuit Schooled Leon Panetta for CIA Chief

http://thecaucus.blogs.nytimes.com/2009/01...d-cia-director/

http://news.aol.com/article/obama-selects-...ia-chief/293944





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Obama Selects Jesuit Schooled Leon Panetta for CIA Chief



Panetta to Be Named C.I.A. Director

By Carl Hulse AND Mark Mazzetti



Leon E. Panetta, the former congressman and White House chief of staff. (Kevin Wolf/Associated Press)President-elect Barack Obama has selected Leon E. Panetta, the former congressman and White House chief of staff, to take over the Central Intelligence Agency, an organization that Mr. Obama criticized during the campaign for using interrogation methods he decried as torture, Democratic officials said Monday.



Mr. Panetta has a reputation in Washington as a competent manager with strong background in budget issues, but has little hands-on intelligence experience. If confirmed by the Senate, he will take control of the agency most directly responsible for hunting senior Al Qaeda leaders around the globe, but one that has been buffeted since the Sept. 11 attacks by leadership changes and morale problems.



Given his background, Mr. Panetta is a somewhat unusual choice to lead the C.I.A., an agency that has been unwelcoming to previous directors perceived as outsiders, such as Stansfield M. Turner and John M. Deutch. But his selection points up the difficulty Mr. Obama had in finding a C.I.A. director with no connection to controversial counterterrorism programs of the Bush era.





Aides have said Mr. Obama had originally hoped to select a C.I.A. head with extensive field experience, especially in combating terrorist networks. But his first choice for the job, John O. Brennan, had to withdraw his name amidst criticism over his role in the formation of the C.I.A’s detention and interrogation program after the Sept. 11 attacks.



Members of Mr. Obama’s transition also raised concerns about other candidates, even some Democratic lawmakers with intelligence experience. Representative Jane Harman of California, formerly the senior Democrat on the House Intelligence Committee, was considered for the job, but she was ruled out as a candidate in part because of her early support for some Bush administration programs like the domestic eavesdropping program.



In disclosing the pick, officials pointed to Mr. Panetta’s sharp managerial skills, his strong bipartisan standing on Capitol Hill, his significant foreign policy experience in the White House and his service on the Iraq Study Group, the bipartisan panel that examined the war and made recommendations on United States policy. The officials noted that he had a handle on intelligence spending from his days as director of the Office and Management and Budget.



Mr. Deutch, now a professor at the Massachusetts Institute of Technology, said Mr. Panetta and Dennis Blair, who was selected by Mr. Obama to become director of national intelligence, were an “absolutely brilliant team,” and called Mr. Panetta a “talented and experienced manager of government and a widely respected person with congress.”



He said that given global environment, there are indeed good reasons for Mr. Obama to select a C.I.A. veteran to lead the C.I.A. But he said that two of the agency’s most successful directors, John McCone and George H.W. Bush, had little or no intelligence intelligence experience when they took over at C.I.A.



“He will bring a wealth of knowledge of the government to the C.I.A. post and an outside perspective that I think might be helpful at this juncture in the C.I.A.’s history,” said Lee Hamilton, the former chairman of the House Intelligence Committee and a co-chairman of the Iraq Study Group.



As C.I.A. director, Mr. Panetta would report to Mr. Blair, a retired admiral. Neither choice has yet been publicly announced. The C.I.A. has settled down from years of turmoil after the Sept. 11 attacks and fallout from flawed intelligence assessments about Iraq’s weapons of mass destruction programs.



At the same time, it faces uncertainly about where it fits in the constellation of spy agencies operating under the director of national intelligence. In recent months, Michael V. Hayden, the current C.I.A. director, has clashed with Mike McConnell, the current director of national intelligence, about Mr. McConnell’s efforts to fill top intelligence jobs overseas with officers from across the intelligence community, not just the C.I.A.



Mr. Panetta, a native of Monterey, Calif., served eight terms in the House representing his home region before becoming the chief budget adviser to President Bill Clinton in 1993. He then served as Mr. Clinton’s chief of staff from July 1994 to January 1997.



Given the focus on the intelligence apparatus in the wake of the terror attacks and the ongoing conflicts in Afghanistan and Iraq, Mr. Obama’s selections in the intelligence field are expected to be closely examined.



Mr. Hamilton said that if confirmed, Mr. Panetta will have the advantage of moving to the agency headquarters in Langley, Va. with a strong relationship to Mr. Obama, which can translate into influence within the broader intelligence community. He said Mr. Panetta’s lack of hands-on intelligence experience can be supplemented by others.



“You have to look at the team,” he said. “You clearly will want intelligence professionals at the highest levels of the C.I.A.,” he said.



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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Leon_Panetta



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Leon Edward Panetta (born June 28, 1938) is a Democratic politician and scholar from California's Central Coast. He served as White House Chief of Staff to Bill Clinton, and before that was a member of the United States House of Representatives from 1976 to 1993. He is the founder and director of the Panetta Institute, serves as Distinguished Scholar to the Chancellor of the California State University system and is a professor at JESUIT Santa Clara University teaching public policy. On January 5, 2009, FOX News reported that he will be named by President-elect Barack Obama as CIA Director.



Early life and schooling



Leon Panetta was born in Monterey, California, the son of Italian immigrants who owned a restaurant there. He was raised in the Monterey area, and attended Catholic schools St. Carlos Grammar School and Carmel Mission School. He continued his education at Monterey High School, a public school where he became involved in student politics. As a junior he was Vice President of the Student Body, and became President of the Student Body as a senior.



In 1956 he entered Santa Clara University, and in 1960 he graduated magna cum laude with a Bachelor of Arts in Political Science. He also received a Juris Doctor in 1963 from the Santa Clara University Law School, and soon after began practicing law.




In 1964 he joined the United States Army as a Second Lieutenant. There he received the Army Commendation Medal, and was discharged in 1966 as a Captain.



Responsibilities



Joint Ocean Commission Initiative



* Commissioner and Co-Chair[10]



Pew Oceans Commission



* Commissioner[11]



Bread for the World



* Board of Directors



National Marine Sanctuary Foundation



* Member of the Board of Directors[12]



New York Stock Exchange



* Co-chairman of the Corporate Accountability and Listing Standards Committee

* Board of Directors since 1997



Close Up Foundation



* Board of Directors, Member since 1999



Connetics Investor Relations



* Board of Directors since March 2000[13]



Fleishman-Hillard[14]



* Co-chairman of the Corporate Accountability and Listing Standards Committee

* Co-chairman of the Corporate Credibility Advisory practice

* Member of the International Advisory Board



Junior Statesmen Foundation Inc.



* Trustee since 2004



Public Policy Institute of California



* Board of Directors since 2007[15]



In June 2002 the United States Conference of Catholic Bishops put him on their National Review Board[16], which was created to look into the Catholic Church's sexual abuse scandal. This created controversy because of Panetta's pro-choice stands on abortion and other views seen as conflicting with those of the Church.



In January, 2009, Panetta was nominated by President-elect Obama to head the CIA.

 



Jesse Ventura: CIA Embedded in Every State Government


"CIA Embedded in Every State Government"

Video Description from youtube.com:

"Jesse Ventura Speaks about his personal experiences and knowledge of such facts! Former Governor Jesse Ventura exposes he was interrogated by more than 20 CIA agents during his term of office in Minnesota. Despite the CIA's mission statement which states they are not to be operational within the Unites States, Ventura stated that he had embedded CIA agents working in high level positions of the Minnesota state government. Ventura also said that when these agents retired, their replacements were already chosen for him by the CIA."

Bush Says He Doubts Bible Literally True



http://news.aol.com/article/bush-says-he-doubts-bible-literally-true/264531


WASHINGTON (Dec. 9) -- President George W. Bush said his belief that God created the world is not incompatible with scientific proof of evolution.
In an interview with ABC's "Nightline" on Monday, the president also said he probably is not a literalist when reading the Bible although an individual can learn a great deal from it, including the New Testament teaching that God sent his only son.

Asked about creation and evolution, Bush said: "I think you can have both. I think evolution can — you're getting me way out of my lane here. I'm just a simple president. But it's, I think that God created the earth, created the world; I think the creation of the world is so mysterious it requires something as large as an almighty and I don't think it's incompatible with the scientific proof that there is evolution."
He added, "I happen to believe that evolution doesn't fully explain the mystery of life."

Interviewer Cynthia McFadden asked Bush if the Bible was literally true.

"You know. Probably not. ... No, I'm not a literalist, but I think you can learn a lot from it, but I do think that the New Testament for example is ... has got ... You know, the important lesson is 'God sent a son,'" Bush said.

"It is hard for me to justify or prove the mystery of the Almighty in my life," he said. "All I can just tell you is that I got back into religion and I quit drinking shortly thereafter and I asked for help. ... I was a one-step program guy."

The president also said that he prays to the same God as those with different religious beliefs.

"I do believe there is an almighty that is broad and big enough and loving enough that can encompass a lot of people," Bush said.

When asked whether he thought he would have become president had it not been for his faith, Bush said: "I don't know; it's hard to tell. I do know that I would have been — I'm pretty confident I would have been a pretty selfish person."

Bush said he is often asked whether he thinks he was chosen by God to be president.
"I just, I can't go there," he said. "I'm not that confident in knowing, you know, the Almighty, to be able to say, Yeah, God wanted me of all the other people."

He also said the decision to go to war in Iraq was not connected to his religious beliefs.

"I did it based upon the need to protect the American people from harm," Bush said.
"You can't look at the decision to go into Iraq apart from, you know, what happened on Sept. 11. It was not a religious decision," he said. "I don't view this as a war of religion. I view this as a war of good, decent people of all faiths against people who murder innocent people to achieve a political objective."

He said he felt like God was with him as he made big decisions, but that the decisions were his.

"George W. Bush has to make these decisions."

More Bush INFO



More CPS HORRORS



This is someone else going through the HORRORS of CPS

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v3b6hOe_j1M

"Camera was stolen by cops, instigated by CPS in retribution for the banned video ( see those videos at http://www.federaljack.com/modules.php?nam...ticle&sid=2737) So now I'm stuck doing audio only.

This is just an update. The pics are random grabs from the web, and not actual footage of the referenced incidents.

Approaching FIVE MONTHS since Oregon CPS kidnapped my baby."

Some Jim Jones - Jesuit Connections




Endorsments: http://jonestown.sdsu.edu/AboutJonestown/P...mentsPacket.pdf



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http://www.stanthonysf.org/about/about-boeddeker.html





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Fr. John P. Mossi, S.J.


http://media.www.gonzagawitness.com/media/...j-2445337.shtml




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Jim Jones and Jesuit trained Jerry Brown when Brown was governor. Jerry Brown actually trained to be a Jesuit Priest. Jerry brown is the current Attorney General of California (11/18/2008).



"That occasionally all-too-real cliche is the opposite of Jerry Brown. A Jesuit intellectual as a youth, a person still filled with strong moral conviction, in reality he's straightforward, honest, sensible, down-to-earth." ~Source


More Jerry Brown Info



"Jones had sent some staff members to his commune site, and he visited and tried to publicize himself by giving a sermon in Guyana's capital city, Georgetown. Members of Jones' staff looked for a place for Jones to preach, and in town was a Catholic Church. Jones' staff was aware of the enthusiastic ecumenism of Father Andrew Morrison (SJ), and they asked Morrison if they could use his Sacred Heart Church to give a service, without being candid about the nature of Jones' preaching. Father Morrison and his perish council agreed. Jones' appearance at the church was well advertised. Father Morrison was present at the service and was appalled. In the days that followed, Morrison apologized publicly for what he called a blatant hoax and fraud having taken place in his church. Some people in Georgetown saw Jones as having imported cheap tricks, and Jones was disappointed that techniques that worked in Indiana and California had not worked in Georgetown, Guyana. And Jones wondered whether he was losing his touch."



http://www.fsmitha.com/h2/ch30.htm



Georgetown Guyana was named after King George III of the Holy Roman Empire



http://encarta.msn.com/encyclopedia_761560...n_(Guyana).html



Tribute to Andrew Morrison



The Government Information Agency (GINA) joins in paying tribute to a fearless fighter for press freedom, Father Andrew Morrison, S.J.

Father Morrison’s contribution to the struggle for press freedom brings to memory another great patriot Father Bernard Darke, who was murdered by armed agents of the then PNC regime, whilst carrying out journalistic duties in a period when press freedom was non-existent.




http://www.gina.gov.gy/archive/daily/b040127.html



"He was to grow immensely tall and successively to study accountancy, become a Jesuit and be approached by MI6 to train as a saboteur; he would edit a newspaper, be hailed continent-wide as a champion of press freedom," Read more:



http://www.independent.co.uk/news/obituari...son-549386.html



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Martin Sheen Endorses Cindy Sheehan for Congress

More controlled opposition and Jesuit intrigue as Jesuit Coadjutor Martin Sheen publicly endorses the OPPOSITION to Nancy Pelosi, the Jesuit controlled traitor of the American people (yet hero in the eyes of the Whore of revelation). -TR



Martin Sheen and Roseanne Barr Endorse Cindy Sheehan For Congress



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http://www.kron4.com/Global/story.asp?S=92...=menu130_13_5_1



Sean Penn Escorts Cindy Sheehan to Milk Film Release



Martin Sheen and Roseanne Barr Endorse Cindy Sheehan For Congress



SAN FRANCISCO, Oct. 28 /PRNewswire/ -- Sean Penn, a San Francisco resident, Academy Award and Golden Globe winning actor and director, and star of the film "Milk," a biopic of the life and assassination of San Francisco supervisor and gay rights leader Harvey Milk, will escort activist and San Francisco Congressional Candidate Cindy Sheehan to the film's San Francisco release at the Castro theater tonight.



Like Sheehan, Penn is a long-time critic of the Bush administration and its handling of the Iraq war. His political activism has included a tour of Iraq and travel to post-Katrina New Orleans. On October 4, Penn hosted a fundraiser for Sheehan at his San Francisco home that raised more than $5,000 for her campaign.



Celebrated actors and activists Martin Sheen and Roseanne Barr have also each recently endorsed Cindy Sheehan who is currently running as an Independent candidate in California's 8th Congressional District race against incumbent Nancy Pelosi (D-CA).



Martin Sheen is a tireless peace and political activist who has advocated on behalf of progressive causes and candidates for decades, including the farm workers movement, civil rights, animal rights and immigration. A visible opponent of the war in Iraq, immigrant issues and fair labor, Sheen visited Sheehan at "Camp Casey" in 2005. Sheen is a Golden Globe and Emmy Award winning actor, whose long list of credits includes the role of fictional Democratic President Josiah Bartlet in the much-heralded NBC political drama series, "The West Wing."



Comedian and outspoken blogger Roseanne Barr is an Emmy Award winning comedian, actress and writer, whose successful standup act led to her own long-running ABC series, "Roseanne." On October 14, Barr moderated a panel discussion addressing the need for media reform at the Brava Theatre for Sheehan on October 14, along with guests Dennis Bernstein of KPFA, Miguel Molina of KPFA, and Peter Philips of Project Censored.



"These immensely talented individuals have used their success and celebrity to draw attention to issues that are important to this state and to this country," said Sheehan. "I am deeply honored by their support and their confidence in my candidacy."



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Ramon Gerardo Antonio Estevez AKA Martin Sheen took the name "SHEEN" after Bishop Fulton Sheen:

http://www.spirituallysmart.com/sheen.html



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Now, is Cindy Sheehan playing into their hands unwittingly? or is she Cointelpro to lead and control the opposition of the war mongering Jesuit Military industrial Complex?



Cindy Sheehan on Catholicism:



"I left the Roman Catholic Church permanently after the 2004 elections, when many Roman Catholic Bishops and priests encouraged their flocks to vote for George W. Bush because he was "pro-life." I am disappointed with many Christian traditions and other institutional religions that don't loudly and with great moral authority, based on the teachings of Jesus Christ and the saints about peace, love, and forgiveness, denounce George W. and his immoral war against humanity."



" I was starting to recall my Roman Catholic roots more and more while in the Basilica, when those same roots were brought back sharply into focus as I came to the "Tomba di San Francesco," the Tomb of St. Francis. I walked into the chapel and stood in front of the Saint's remains and was struck by the fact that I was in a holy place."




http://www.truthout.org/article/cindy-shee...nstrument-peace



Hmm, seems like Cindy Sheehan has her roots deeply embedded into CATHOLICISM!!

Two Jesuits Killed in Moscow, found brutally murdered in apartment

http://www.americamagazine.org/blog/entry....3955A3A432BE736



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"From the Press Office of the Jesuit Curia in Rome, this morning:







Two Jesuits, Fathers Otto Messmer and Victor Betancourt, killed in Moscow



On Saturday 25 October, Father Victor Betancourt, an Ecuadorian Jesuit working in the St. Thomas Philosophical, Theological and Historical Institute in Moscow, was killed in his home. Two days later, after returning from a trip abroad, Father Otto Messmer, Superior of the Russian Region, was also killed in the same place. On Tuesday 28 October, alarmed by the fact that he hadn’t heard from the two men, a fellow Jesuit who lives in another community went to visit them at home. On finding the dead bodies, he immediately contacted the police.



The police investigations have yet to come to any firm conclusions about cause of these violent deaths.



Father Otto Messmer, son of a profoundly Catholic family of German origin and a Russian citizen, was born on 14 July 1961 in Karaganda, Kazakhstan. He entered into the Society of Jesus on 1 September 1982 in Vilnius and was ordained a priest on 29 May 1988 in Riga. He took his final vows in Novosibirsk on 7 October 2001 and was appointed Superior of the Independent Region of Russia of the Society of Jesus on 13 October 2002. Two of his brothers are Jesuits: Monsignor Nikolaus, Bishop of the Kyrgyzstani city of Bishkek, and Hieronymus, from the German Province.



Father Victor Betancourt was born on 7 July 1966 in Guayaquil, Ecuador. He entered into the Society of Jesus on 14 September 1984 in Quito and was ordained a priest in the same city on 31 July 1997. He undertook his Jesuit training in Argentina, Ecuador, Germany and Italy. In 2004, he defended his doctoral thesis in Theology in the city of Rome. Since 2001, he had been responsible for those considering a vocation as Jesuits and at the time of his death he was a theology professor in the St. Thomas Philosophical, Theological and Historical Institute in Moscow.



Father General, Adolfo Nicolás SJ, issued an appeal to all Jesuits to provide assistance and support to, and demonstrate their solidarity with, the Jesuits of the Russian Region in this difficult moment. He expressed his closeness to families of the deceased and thanked the Church for issuing its condolences as soon as the news of the tragedy was made public.



Father General Nicolás urged the whole Society to pray that our fellow Jesuits rest in eternal peace and for an end of all forms of violence.



R.I.P.



James Martin, SJ"




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Two Jesuit priests in Moscow found brutally murdered in apartment



http://www.catholicnews.com/data/stories/cns/0805499.htm





By Carol Glatz

Catholic News Service



VATICAN CITY (CNS) -- Two Jesuit priests were murdered brutally in Moscow after being attacked with blunt objects.



Jesuit Fathers Otto Messmer, 47, and Victor Betancourt, 42, were found dead late Oct. 28 in their Moscow apartment.



The Russian bishops' conference denounced "those who committed this terrible crime" and prayed Russian authorities would "be able to find the criminals."



"The assassin is in a state of serious, horrible sin and whoever committed (the crime) must undergo just punishment," the conference said in an Oct. 29 statement sent to Vatican Radio.



It said it hoped once the perpetrators were found, the Russian courts and society would pronounce "an objective juridical and moral judgment" for the crimes committed.



In a note distributed to journalists at the Vatican press hall, head of Vatican Radio, Jesuit Father Federico Lombardi, said a police investigation was under way.



The murders had been carried out "with blunt objects," he wrote.



He said authorities suspect Father Betancourt had been killed before Oct. 26 since he had not shown up to celebrate Sunday Mass that day.



Father Messmer may have been killed Oct. 27 since he had returned to Moscow from Germany that night, Father Lombardi wrote.



Concerned about not having seen or heard from the priests, another Jesuit went to their apartment Oct. 28 where he found them dead, wrote Father Lombardi.



Father Adolfo Nicolas, superior general of the Jesuits, called on all Jesuits to pray for their brothers in Russia and for the end to all violence.



The funeral Mass was to be celebrated by Moscow Archbishop Paolo Pezzi the evening of Oct. 29 in Moscow's Immaculate Conception Cathedral.



Father Messmer, a Russian citizen, was born in Kazakhstan. He had been head of the Russian independent region of the Society of Jesus since 2002.



Father Betancourt, an Ecuadorean citizen, studied in Argentina, Germany and Rome and had been working in Russia since 2001.



The two priests worked together at Moscow's Church of St. Louis de France.



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Video: "Roman Catholicism, Past and Present" -David Cloud



I'm not a baptist but I do agree with a lot of what David Cloud speaks upon. Especially regarding the Vatican and Calvinism.

Here is David Cloud's web site: http://www.wayoflife.org/index.html

"..... according to ancient lore, this is because the wind and the devil were walking together one day when the devil suddenly disappeared into the Gesu (Jesuit church in Rome). The devil has not come out again, and the wind is still waiting outside!"


http://books.google.com/books?id=S2MLAAAAY=result

http://www.ianpaisley.org/article.asp?ArtKey=tale


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Kurt Nimmo Inadvertently Exposes Alex Jones as CIA

Here's an article written by Alex Jones supporter and guest of the Alex Jones show, Kurt Nimmo. http://www.infowars.com/?p=817 This article was written Tuesday, March 18, 2008 BEFORE Jones appeared on FOX with Geraldo Rivera. Notice how Kurt says "It is fair to assume the Pentagon and the CIA are burrowed deeply inside newsrooms around the country, especially the higher echelon corporate newsrooms at Faux, CNN, MSNBC, etc." He says of Geraldo, "Such comments are designed by CIA" I wonder what he thinks now that Alex Jones has appeared on FOX with Rivera?? dry.gif oops, I guess the CIA "accidentally" let Alex Jones slip by. cool.gif Just like he did when he "slipped by" the security at the Bohemian Grove.


Alex Jones and Geraldo Rivera


http://spirituallysmart.blogspot.com/2010/06/bohemian-grove-truth.html

Cult Member = Heretic and that's what the Pope Considers ALL

"She (the R.C. Church) has ever considered as heretics (cult members) or schismatics all who refuse to submit to Papal authority." "Uncle Sam or the Pope Which?" page 94

The word "Heretic" (a study)

Margaret Singer began her work by interviewing "a number of Jesuit Priests"


Excerpts from Cults In Our Midst

By Dr. Margaret Thaler Singer


"One of the leading experts in the field of coercive persuasion is Margaret Thaler Singer, Ph.D., a clinical psychologist and emeritus adjunct professor at the University of California, Berkeley. In her career, she has counseled and interviewed more than 3,000 current and former cult members and their relatives and friends.


Dr. Singer is the author of the book "Cults In Our Midst," which summarizes fifty years of work on the subject. In the 1950s, as a senior psychologist in the laboratory of psychology at the Walter Reed Army Institute of Research, she worked with Dr. Robert Jay Lifton and others who were studying prisoners of war from the Korean War.

It was there that she first encountered the forms of coercive persuasion, or thought reform programs, that not only prisoners of war but also civilians in a variety of milieus had been exposed to in the Far East. She also interviewed a number of Jesuit priests who had been exposed to thought reform processes while imprisoned in mainland China.


http://www.factnet.org/singer.htm



Margaret Singer spent a lot of time championing this theory of mind control. Her testimony regarding this subject was rejected by the Board of Social and Ethical Responsibility for Psychology (BSERP) of the American Psychological Association. Check out some astounding information on Margaret Singer (CIA connections).



"It is now well known that the premise that 913 people there committed suicide on orders is false. Rather than a “mass suicide” it is, at least substantially, an unsolved mass murder. (See My Jonestown Page)

But regardless of the tomes of documented information available to show that a “mass suicide” never happened, West, Singer, Ofshe and Hassan continue to tell the public that it did."

ICSA - "The Masons, the Jesuits, Opus Dei and the Military are NOT CULTS"

The International Cultic Studies Association says "the Masons, the Jesuits, Opus Dei and the Military do NOT qualify as "CULTS"

http://www.dreichel.com/Checklist_of_Cult_Characte.htm
http://www.icsahome.com/infoserv_articles/...sdei_en0502.htm
http://www.csj.org/infoserv_cult101/marine_def.htm

"Aren't the Jesuits or other monastic religious orders a cult?

No.

While cults, military organizations, and legitimate spiritual groups share some superficials, they are fundamentally different.

They share an indoctrination process, strict codes of behavior and ethics, uniform dress, restricted diets and exercise regimens.

Where they differ most is deception. Anyone signing up for bootcamp has no doubt in his or her mind that he will be going through a severe mental, emotional, and physical trial meant to improve their physique and sharpen their mind. There are no secrets.

Whether a curious person attends an introductory seminar for Transcendental Meditation, the Church of Scientology, the Moonists, or smaller cults, the speaker will conveniently forget to mention that new members will undergo what the California Supreme Court has called "brainwashing, thought reform, or mind control," may end up "donating" hundreds of thousands of dollars and years of their lives to the cult.

It should be pointed out also that legitimate organizations like the Marines and Jesuits care for their members with health care, food, lodging, clothing -- and that when members leave they will have been trained in a trade, received an advanced degree, or received other value."

"Aren't the Marines a Cult by Your Definition?

--adapted from Cults in Our Midst: The Hidden Menace in Our Everyday Lives, by Margaret Singer and Janja Lalich, Jossey-Bass, 1995. Reprinted with authors' permission.

I have had to point out why the United States Marine Corps is not a cult so many times that I carry a list to lectures and court appearances. It cites 19 ways in which the practices of the Marine Corps differ from those found in most modern cults....

Cults clearly differ from such purely authoritarian groups as the military, some types of sects and communes, and centuries- old Roman Catholic and Greek and Russian Orthodox Orders. These groups, though rigid and controlling, lack a double agenda and are not manipulative or leader-centered. The differences become apparent when we examine the intensity and pervasiveness with which mind-manipulating techniques and deceptions are or are not applied.
Jesuit seminaries may isolate the seminarian from the rest of the world for periods of time, but the candidate is not deliberately deceived about the obligations and burdens of the priesthood. In fact, he is warned in advance about what is expected, and what he can and cannot do....

Mainstream religious organizations do not concentrate their search on the lonely and the vulnerable.... Nor do mainstream religions focus recruitment on wealthy believers who are seen as pots of gold for the church, as is the case with those cults who target rich individuals....

Military training and legitimate executive training programs may use the dictates of authority as well as peer pressure to encourage the adoption of new patterns of thought and behavior. They do not seek, however, to accelerate the process by prolonged or intense psychological depletion or by stirring up feelings of dread, guilt, and sinfulness....

And what is wrong with cults is not just that cults are secret societies. In our culture, there are openly recognized, social secret societies, such as the Masons, in which new members know up front that they will gradually learn the shared rituals of the group....

In [cults], there is deliberate deception about what the group is and what some of the rituals might be, and primarily, there is deception about what the ultimate goal will be for a member, what will ultimately be demanded and expected, and what the damages resulting from some of the practices might be. A secret handshake is not equivalent to mind control."

from Steve Eichel Web site

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Steve_Eichel


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