Yesterday I saw that infowars was spreading disinformation and they were using the disinfo to fearmonger. The article was by Kurt Nimmo. This is the second time that infowars has spread this same disinfo. It was in regards to homeschooling. It was when the lower courts did rule against homeschooling in California and it was bad. BUT it was all turned over by the higher courts. Why would infowars then keep spreading the lower court's oppressive ruling? I would say there are several reasons. As I said before, to fearmonger. But also to get people used to the fact and conditioned to accept that this is happening. I believe it is a psy-op.
Here is the infowars.com article:
http://www.infowars.com/homeschoolers-arrested-in-new-york-slavery-returns-to-amerika/
And here is the article which tells of the higher court overturning the lower court: http://www.hslda.org/hs/state/ca/200808080.asp
I don't believe that "infowars" did not know this. This is just more disinformation by Jones' camp.
Regarding the content of the infowars article, in NY it is required by law to register and tell the school district that you intend to homeschool. There is also additional requirements that are more strict than any other state in the US. I do not agree with some of these oppresive type laws regarding homeschooling BUT it is recommended by HSLDA (Home School Legal Defense Assoc) that you comply with all local laws if you intend to homeschool.
Alito troubled by concerns about court's Catholics
Alito troubled by concerns about court's Catholics
Posted on Wednesday, October 21, 2009 6:00:34 AM by markomalley
PHILADELPHIA (AP) - U.S. Supreme Court Justice Samuel Alito is voicing frustration over what he calls persistent questions about the court's Roman Catholic majority.
Alito aired his concerns in a speech Tuesday to an Italian-American law group in Philadelphia. He said respectable people in serious publications have questioned whether the Catholic-raised judges could be trusted to do their jobs. He said he thought the Constitution settled the question long ago with its guarantee of religious freedom.
Alito is one of six justices on the nine-member court who were raised Catholic, including new Justice Sonia Sotomayor. A dozen of the 111 jurists in the court's history have been Catholic.
Posted on Wednesday, October 21, 2009 6:00:34 AM by markomalley
PHILADELPHIA (AP) - U.S. Supreme Court Justice Samuel Alito is voicing frustration over what he calls persistent questions about the court's Roman Catholic majority.
Alito aired his concerns in a speech Tuesday to an Italian-American law group in Philadelphia. He said respectable people in serious publications have questioned whether the Catholic-raised judges could be trusted to do their jobs. He said he thought the Constitution settled the question long ago with its guarantee of religious freedom.
Alito is one of six justices on the nine-member court who were raised Catholic, including new Justice Sonia Sotomayor. A dozen of the 111 jurists in the court's history have been Catholic.
Words of Charles Chiniquy (Former Roman Catholic Priest)
"I can say with John:
"And there came one of the seven angels which had the seven vials, and talked with me, saying unto me: 'Come hither: I will show unto thee the judgment of the great whore that sitteth upon many waters; with whom the kings of the earth have committed fornication, and the inhabitants of the earth have been made drunk with the wine of her fornication.' So he carried me away in the Spirit into the wilderness; and I saw a woman sit upon a scarlet coloured beast, full of names of blasphemy, having seven heads and ten horns. And the woman was arrayed in purple and scarlet colour, and decked with gold and precious stones and pearls, having a golden cup in her hand full of abominations and filthiness of her fornication: and upon her forehead was a name written: 'Mystery, Babylon the Great, the Mother of Harlots and Abominations Of The Earth.' And I saw the woman drunken with the blood of the saints, and with the blood of the martyrs of Jesus; and when I saw her, I wondered with great admiration' (Rev. xvii. 1 6).
And after the Lord had shown me all these abominations, He took me out as the eagle takes his own young ones on his wings. He brought me into His beautiful and beloved Zion, and He set my feet on the rock of my salvation. There, He quenched my thirst with the pure waters which flow from the fountains of eternal life, and He gave me to eat the true bread which comes from heaven.
Oh! that I might go all over the world, through this book, and say with the Psalmist: "Come, all ye that fear God, and I will declare what He hath done for my soul."
Let all the children of God who will read this book lend me their tongues to praise the Lord. Let him lend me their hearts, to love Him. For, alone, I cannot praise Him, I cannot love Him as He deserves. When look upon the seventy-six years which have passed over me, my heart leaps for joy, for I find myself at the end of trials. I have nearly crossed the desert.
Only the narrow stream of Jordan is between me and the new Jerusalem. I already hear the great voice out of heaven saying: "Behold, the tabernacle of God is with men, and He will dwell with them, and be their God, and God shall wipe away all tears from their eyes; and there shall be no more death, neither sorrow, nor crying, neither shall there be any more pain; for the former things have passed away....He that overcometh shall inherit all things" (Rev. xxi. 3, 4, 7).
Rich with the unspeakable gift which has been given me, and pressing my dear Bible to my heart, as the richest treasure, I hasten my steps with an unspeakable joy toward the Land of Promise. I already hear the angel's voice telling me: "Come: the Master calls thee."
A few days more and the bridegroom will say to my soul: "Surely I come quickly." And I will answer: "Even so, come Lord Jesus." Amen."
23% of Americans are Catholic yet 6 of 9 Supreme Court Justices are Roman Catholic
Judge Sonia Sotomayor has much to distinguish her, but one element of her biography stands out in the world of those interested in religion and the public square: she is Catholic, and, if approved as a Supreme Court justice, she will be the sixth Catholic on the nine-member court. That is a remarkable accomplishment for American Catholics, who make up 23 percent of the nation's population, and will now potentially hold 67 percent of the high court's seats. Two of the justices are Jewish; the resignation of Justice David Souter, who is an Episcopalian, will leave, amazingly given the history of this nation, just one Protestant on the Supreme Court, 89-year-old Justice John Paul Stevens. (How can they say he's a "Protestant"? True "Protestants" were called "Protestants" because they were protesting against Catholic Power and doctrine.)
Undoubtedly, Sotomayor's Catholic-ness will be the subject of some debate. Just how Catholic is she? Steven Waldman, blogging at Beliefnet, quotes a White House official saying, "Judge Sotomayor was raised as a Catholic and attends church for family celebrations and other important events."
David Gibson, also at Beliefnet, suggests there may be a strategic reason for Sotomayor to downplay her faith affiliation:
"The (awful) question will now be, what KIND of Catholic is she? She is divorced, without kids. Heck, she may want to downplay her practice of the faith as that will be a huge target--and it's easy to guess who'll be lobbing most of the heavy ordinance."
And Cathy Lynn Grossman, blogging for USA Today, makes a similar prediction:
"Next up: Expect her nomination to re-ignite the ongoing Catholic blogosphere wars over who is Catholic enough. If confirmed, Sotomayor, who grew up in Catholic schools in the Bronx, would be the sixth Catholic on the high court. It may be that her life experiences will align her with the social justice issues pushed by the U.S. Conference of Catholic Bishops on race, poverty, immigration and economic issues. But for some outspoken Catholics, the 'life' issues -- abortion, family planning, so-called 'conscience clauses' for health workers, embryonic stem cell research and end-of-life choices -- are the litmus test."
Over at GetReligion, Terry Mattingly wonders why the word "Catholic" is not more a part of the early press coverage, and asks if that would be different if Sotomayor were a known opponent of abortion rights:
"Her life story will be a big part of the upcoming mini-debates about her appointment. Here is my question: If she was a pro-life woman, from a Hispanic background, do you think that the word 'Catholic' would be appearing higher in these early (I repeat, EARLY) reports about her life and work? Just saying."
What does it matter if Sotomayor is Catholic? Jacqui Salmon, blogging for the Washington Post, suggests perhaps not much, at least as far as judicial decisionmaking is concerned:
"Experts have been split on what the Catholic majority has meant so far. They point out that Catholics on the bench historically have spanned the spectrum from liberal to conservative. Dennis J. Hutchinson, a court historian at the University of Chicago, noted in 2005 that one of the most liberal Supreme Court justices of the 20th century, William J. Brennan, was a Catholic, and so is one of the most conservative, Scalia."
Manya Brachear, blogging for the Chicago Tribune, tackles the same question, and comes to the same conclusion, although also pointing out the symbolic significance:
"Cathleen Kaveny, law professor at the University of Notre Dame, said a sixth Catholic in the High Court would illustrate how entrenched the church has become in the U.S. A sixth Catholic with views like Sotomayor's also would put the American church’s diversity on display. 'My guess is she’s very much operating in accordance with the commitments of the Catholic social justice tradition which is emphasizing … inclusion, solidarity, justice to those least among us,' Kaveny said. 'It’s strand of American Catholic teaching that is somewhat distinct from other Catholic teaching but not incompatible. People emphasize different aspects.'"
Catholic groups are just now beginning to react to the nomination. Catholics United, a liberal group, reacted positively, and said, "We call on other leaders within the Catholic community to join us in welcoming Judge Sotomayor's nomination and to approach her confirmation hearings with civility and reason." I haven't heard yet from conservative Catholic groups, but in general the reaction from the right has been critical. Ted Olsen, blogging at Christianity Today, reviews the early statements and headlines his post, "Pro-Life Group Consensus on Sotomayor: 'Activist'."
Meanwhile, one thing that struck me in President Obama's remarks about Sotomayor this morning was the language he used to describe the role of Catholic schools in offering children a path out of poverty. This is what he said:
"When Sonia was nine, her father passed away. And her mother worked six days a week as a nurse to provide for Sonia and her brother...But Sonia's mom bought the only set of encyclopedias in the neighborhood, sent her children to a Catholic school called Cardinal Spellman out of the belief that with a good education here in America all things are possible."
(Photo, by Jim Young/Reuters, shows Judge Sonia Sotomayor talking with President Obama at the White House this morning, May 26, 2009.)
"Right to move about freely; at home and abroad..." ?
I was amazed to hear my daughter repeating these words. I looked at what she was reading from and it was right out of her school text book and was a list of freedoms supposedly covered by the First Amendment of the US Constitution. Why or how could she actually be taught this right now? We cannot move about freely at all. I am sick over what these incompetant people are having done at the airports. I will never fly under these conditions and I wish others wouldn't fly anymore either. How can you let people touch you or look under your clothes and search your personal belongings without batting an eye?
Recently a friend of mine travelled to Florida for vacation. She verbally protested the embarrassing search of her personal belongings. The airport "security" then began to make a public example of her. Cordening her off with her child as they both were violated by the hands of strangers on their bodies. This is nothing less than sexual assault. Yet America will not speak up. So why not think that Nazi Germany is upon us again? They "dusted" my friends child's hair for explosives. And it wasn't because they suspected them of being a terrorist. It was because they spoke up. Truly evil and wicked individuals. I pray all these people that oppress others in the name of "freedom" have all peace of mind (if they have any) removed from them by God Almighty.
I am almost too disgusted to write this because I can feel the injustice of having to go through this if I wanted to travel. Of course I wouldn't keep quiet either. This would then cause me to be blocked from getting on my flight. People actually do not even want to fly with someone like me. They think you're dangerous or even perhaps a terrorist yourself if you protest the assault on your privacy we must endure. Or maybe I would end up like like the Carol Ann Gotbaum who was murdered by airport security by being choked to death and left for dead in a small cell.
While these people are saying they are protecting me from "terrorists", who will protect me from them? I haven't seen a terrorist except the ones who are wearing badges eyeballing me and asking to look through my bags at any given time. To me these are the true terrorists. Can I help being offended at this intrusion? No I can't. I am just verbally expressing how I feel. I have the right to do that. Don't I? Only here though right? Only in this little forum I have here. But what happens if you go out and verbally protest? You become a target of harrassment and intimidation.
So this leads me again to the focus and cause of my work. Being that Religious Roman Catholics are in power in this government, who can I blame?
Don't forget the article from the Washington Post which spoke of President Bush's guidance of Roman Catholic thinkers under who's watch much of this oppressive legislation was passed. The article is called, "A Catholic Wind in the White House". This "Catholic wind" has blown away ALL of our precious civil liberties.
What's very strange is that when all this oppressive legislation like the Patriot Act was being passed I heard SOME voices protesting that it was dangerous legislation. But right now, in the face of 24 hour a day News coverage of all this crazy intrusive security I don't hear any public outcry of concern of the violation of our inherited rights to move about freely at home or abroad.
So while one child is learning about Freedoms under our constitution, another child is being "dusted" for explosives and held back, seperated from their mother and having bags checked by THUGS and being taught there is no US Consitution at all and that you have no freedom to move about or any privacy.
Maybe the answer lies in my above statement, "I pray all these people that oppress others in the name of "freedom" have all peace of mind (if they have any) removed from them by God Almighty." Maybe none of them have any peace and are terrified at nothing. Here's a few verses which describe this feeling they have and WHY. "The wicked flee when no man pursueth:" (Proverbs 28:1) and "There is no peace, saith the LORD, unto the wicked." (Isaiah 48:22) Important verses to mediatate on. Do you line up?
Recently a friend of mine travelled to Florida for vacation. She verbally protested the embarrassing search of her personal belongings. The airport "security" then began to make a public example of her. Cordening her off with her child as they both were violated by the hands of strangers on their bodies. This is nothing less than sexual assault. Yet America will not speak up. So why not think that Nazi Germany is upon us again? They "dusted" my friends child's hair for explosives. And it wasn't because they suspected them of being a terrorist. It was because they spoke up. Truly evil and wicked individuals. I pray all these people that oppress others in the name of "freedom" have all peace of mind (if they have any) removed from them by God Almighty.
I am almost too disgusted to write this because I can feel the injustice of having to go through this if I wanted to travel. Of course I wouldn't keep quiet either. This would then cause me to be blocked from getting on my flight. People actually do not even want to fly with someone like me. They think you're dangerous or even perhaps a terrorist yourself if you protest the assault on your privacy we must endure. Or maybe I would end up like like the Carol Ann Gotbaum who was murdered by airport security by being choked to death and left for dead in a small cell.
While these people are saying they are protecting me from "terrorists", who will protect me from them? I haven't seen a terrorist except the ones who are wearing badges eyeballing me and asking to look through my bags at any given time. To me these are the true terrorists. Can I help being offended at this intrusion? No I can't. I am just verbally expressing how I feel. I have the right to do that. Don't I? Only here though right? Only in this little forum I have here. But what happens if you go out and verbally protest? You become a target of harrassment and intimidation.
So this leads me again to the focus and cause of my work. Being that Religious Roman Catholics are in power in this government, who can I blame?
Don't forget the article from the Washington Post which spoke of President Bush's guidance of Roman Catholic thinkers under who's watch much of this oppressive legislation was passed. The article is called, "A Catholic Wind in the White House". This "Catholic wind" has blown away ALL of our precious civil liberties.
What's very strange is that when all this oppressive legislation like the Patriot Act was being passed I heard SOME voices protesting that it was dangerous legislation. But right now, in the face of 24 hour a day News coverage of all this crazy intrusive security I don't hear any public outcry of concern of the violation of our inherited rights to move about freely at home or abroad.
So while one child is learning about Freedoms under our constitution, another child is being "dusted" for explosives and held back, seperated from their mother and having bags checked by THUGS and being taught there is no US Consitution at all and that you have no freedom to move about or any privacy.
Maybe the answer lies in my above statement, "I pray all these people that oppress others in the name of "freedom" have all peace of mind (if they have any) removed from them by God Almighty." Maybe none of them have any peace and are terrified at nothing. Here's a few verses which describe this feeling they have and WHY. "The wicked flee when no man pursueth:" (Proverbs 28:1) and "There is no peace, saith the LORD, unto the wicked." (Isaiah 48:22) Important verses to mediatate on. Do you line up?
It's all about GROWTH
I would just like to say hello to everyone and share some thoughts.
What I want to do is continue some work here. I almost want to start from scratch because I don't want people to be confused about my work and why I do what I do. I started doing this work strictly out of CONCERN for my fellow man, in all sincerity. What I didn't want to do is look like someone who likes to repeat untruths and errors. And I didn't want to be someone who ATTACKS people. I may have allowed myself to give off this kind of impression. I also may have allowed myself to fall into disputes over topics that I care about greatly and has caused me to lash out at certain people. Even people I consider to by my enemy. Well, the bible says if my enemy thirst to give them drink. These words of Jesus are how I want to live my life. When the centurion came upon Jesus a follower of Jesus cut off his ear. Jesus healed his ear. If there was ever a cause to fight, even since the conception of this world, it was when soldiers were coming for our dear Lord. BUT Jesus said that was not right to hurt or fight the Centurion. I want to discuss this further in the future but not right now.
The honest and sincere concerns I have had and still have are legitimate and simple to understand. It has to do with the mix of religion and politics. This is the issue I would like to focus on. I don't want to get diverted by attacks on people I have cited. I want to stay focused on my concerns and verbalize them through the Internet.
Here's the concern. In times past in this world, the Catholic church have been behind tyranny. This is verified and admitted by the Roman Catholic Empire. They say that they have changed. I don't believe they have. Call it whatever you want. But I am concerned about Roman Catholics being in powerful positions in our government.
Stop right there and listen to what I said. Is that so wrong? This question is asked to the most ardent Roman Catholic that exists. Is it wrong for me to be concerned and to voice my concerns? You will probably say "no, but it's how you come across and the type of sources you cite" OK then. This is a great concern of mine. To be taken seriously. I want to reach as many people as possible. And being a former Roman Catholic myself who was proud to have "RC" on my dog tags I can see how my work can make people angry and turn them off from trying to understand my position. But what I will not do is entertain people who blindly and in a robotic fashion carry out their agendas by attempting to continuously twist my words and find fault against me. That work is over. I have addressed some of these people in the past but will no longer do that.
Now we see that there are SIX out of nine supreme court justices who are religious Roman Catholics. Yes, that is a concern of mine. It is along these lines that I have created my work. (I think it would be good to really study the reasons why Catholics were not able to hold political offices in England and America for so long. Was it because the Catholics were being persecuted because of righteousness? Absolutely not. I will cover this in a future blog.)
Somewhere along the line I felt it important to come to the defense of people who are being attacked. People who I thought were honest and sincere like myself. That has only weakened me. This lesson I have learned.
What I say is this. IF we live our lives truly according to the Word of God, no one will be able to successfully speak against us. "When a man's ways please the LORD, he maketh even his enemies to be at peace with him." Proverbs 16:7
This is my most important desire and goal. To live this way. If I fail I am ignorant to the failure and thus not held accountable by God Almighty.
1Ti 1:13 "Who was before a blasphemer, and a persecutor, and injurious: but I obtained mercy , because I did [it] ignorantly in unbelief."
This even shows further WHY Paul received forgiveness. He has he "obtained mercy, because" he did it in ignorance.
I believe this is a very important lesson for Christians. And this all coincides with the next blog below. More to come!! God bless!! and WATCH how you judge.
"Do not judge according to appearance, but judge with righteous judgment" (John 7:24)
Thomas
What I want to do is continue some work here. I almost want to start from scratch because I don't want people to be confused about my work and why I do what I do. I started doing this work strictly out of CONCERN for my fellow man, in all sincerity. What I didn't want to do is look like someone who likes to repeat untruths and errors. And I didn't want to be someone who ATTACKS people. I may have allowed myself to give off this kind of impression. I also may have allowed myself to fall into disputes over topics that I care about greatly and has caused me to lash out at certain people. Even people I consider to by my enemy. Well, the bible says if my enemy thirst to give them drink. These words of Jesus are how I want to live my life. When the centurion came upon Jesus a follower of Jesus cut off his ear. Jesus healed his ear. If there was ever a cause to fight, even since the conception of this world, it was when soldiers were coming for our dear Lord. BUT Jesus said that was not right to hurt or fight the Centurion. I want to discuss this further in the future but not right now.
The honest and sincere concerns I have had and still have are legitimate and simple to understand. It has to do with the mix of religion and politics. This is the issue I would like to focus on. I don't want to get diverted by attacks on people I have cited. I want to stay focused on my concerns and verbalize them through the Internet.
Here's the concern. In times past in this world, the Catholic church have been behind tyranny. This is verified and admitted by the Roman Catholic Empire. They say that they have changed. I don't believe they have. Call it whatever you want. But I am concerned about Roman Catholics being in powerful positions in our government.
Stop right there and listen to what I said. Is that so wrong? This question is asked to the most ardent Roman Catholic that exists. Is it wrong for me to be concerned and to voice my concerns? You will probably say "no, but it's how you come across and the type of sources you cite" OK then. This is a great concern of mine. To be taken seriously. I want to reach as many people as possible. And being a former Roman Catholic myself who was proud to have "RC" on my dog tags I can see how my work can make people angry and turn them off from trying to understand my position. But what I will not do is entertain people who blindly and in a robotic fashion carry out their agendas by attempting to continuously twist my words and find fault against me. That work is over. I have addressed some of these people in the past but will no longer do that.
Now we see that there are SIX out of nine supreme court justices who are religious Roman Catholics. Yes, that is a concern of mine. It is along these lines that I have created my work. (I think it would be good to really study the reasons why Catholics were not able to hold political offices in England and America for so long. Was it because the Catholics were being persecuted because of righteousness? Absolutely not. I will cover this in a future blog.)
Somewhere along the line I felt it important to come to the defense of people who are being attacked. People who I thought were honest and sincere like myself. That has only weakened me. This lesson I have learned.
What I say is this. IF we live our lives truly according to the Word of God, no one will be able to successfully speak against us. "When a man's ways please the LORD, he maketh even his enemies to be at peace with him." Proverbs 16:7
This is my most important desire and goal. To live this way. If I fail I am ignorant to the failure and thus not held accountable by God Almighty.
1Ti 1:13 "Who was before a blasphemer, and a persecutor, and injurious: but I obtained mercy , because I did [it] ignorantly in unbelief."
This even shows further WHY Paul received forgiveness. He has he "obtained mercy, because" he did it in ignorance.
I believe this is a very important lesson for Christians. And this all coincides with the next blog below. More to come!! God bless!! and WATCH how you judge.
"Do not judge according to appearance, but judge with righteous judgment" (John 7:24)
Thomas
Going "Astray" and "Ignorance" is basically the same Hebrew and Greek Words
Mat 18:12 How think ye? if a man have an hundred sheep, and one of them be gone astray, doth he not leave the ninety and nine, and goeth into the mountains, and seeketh that which is gone astray?
"Astray" from the strong's:
http://www.blueletterbible.org/lang/lexicon/lexicon.cfm?Strongs=G4105&t=KJV
1) to cause to stray, to lead astray, lead aside from the right way
a) to go astray, wander, roam about
2) metaph.
a) to lead away from the truth, to lead into error, to deceive b) to be led into error c) to be led aside from the path of virtue, to go astray, sin d) to sever or fall away from the truth 1) of heretics e) to be led away into error and sin.
I don't think this covers willful beligerence towards God! This sheep that went astray did so accidentally. To me this sounds like sound doctrine!
Further more we have this: Hebrews 9:7 "But into the second went the high priest alone once every year, not without blood, which he offered for himself, and for the errors of the people:"
"Errors" here is also translated into "sins of ignorance"
This is the NIV: "But only the high priest entered the inner room, and that only once a year, and never without blood, which he offered for himself and for the sins the people had committed in ignorance." (I am quoting from the NIV simply because it is the correct translation as verified by the Strong's Concordance.)
Strong's Concordance for "errors" in Hebrews 9:7 (KJV): "
1) a sin committed through ignorance or thoughtlessness"
Check out the OT: "And the priest shall make an atonement for the soul that sinneth ignorantly, when he sinneth by ignorance before the LORD, to make an atonement for him; and it shall be forgiven him." Number 15:28
Hebrews 10:26: "For if we sin wilfully after that we have received the knowledge of the truth, there remaineth no more sacrifice for sins,"
Job 28:28 "And unto man he said, Behold, the fear of the Lord, that [is] wisdom; and to depart from evil [is] understanding."
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Thomas Richards
1 john 5:16 If any man see his brother sin a sin which is not unto death, he shall ask, and he shall give him life for them that sin not unto death. There is a sin unto death: I do not say that he shall pray for it. 17 All unrighteousness is sin: and there is a sin not unto death.
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sins NOT unto death are sins of ignorance.
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Comment:
From: A.D.
"hmmmm, define "ignorance." i know that poisoning your body in ignorance (welcome swine flu vaccine) still leads you down the same path as one who studies the subject and still chooses to get it...or by "ignorance" are you indicating a more child-like stupidity, like cheating at cards?"
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according to Strong's:
"Ignorantly"
1) to go astray, err, commit sin or errora) (Qal)... Read More1) to err (mentally)
2) to sin (ignorantly or inadvertently)
It's good to look at other verses that speak of ignorance in context.
Like Deu 19:4: "And this [is] the case of the slayer, which shall flee thither, that he may live: Whoso killeth his neighbour ignorantly, whom he hated not in time past."
or
1Ti 1:13 "Who was before a blasphemer, and a persecutor, and injurious: but I obtained mercy , because I did [it] ignorantly in unbelief."
This even shows further WHY Paul received forgiveness. He "obtained mercy, because" he did it in ignorance.
I believe this is a very important lesson for Christians. 2 minutes ago · Delete
"Astray" from the strong's:
http://www.blueletterbible.org/lang/lexicon/lexicon.cfm?Strongs=G4105&t=KJV
1) to cause to stray, to lead astray, lead aside from the right way
a) to go astray, wander, roam about
2) metaph.
a) to lead away from the truth, to lead into error, to deceive b) to be led into error c) to be led aside from the path of virtue, to go astray, sin d) to sever or fall away from the truth 1) of heretics e) to be led away into error and sin.
I don't think this covers willful beligerence towards God! This sheep that went astray did so accidentally. To me this sounds like sound doctrine!
Further more we have this: Hebrews 9:7 "But into the second went the high priest alone once every year, not without blood, which he offered for himself, and for the errors of the people:"
"Errors" here is also translated into "sins of ignorance"
This is the NIV: "But only the high priest entered the inner room, and that only once a year, and never without blood, which he offered for himself and for the sins the people had committed in ignorance." (I am quoting from the NIV simply because it is the correct translation as verified by the Strong's Concordance.)
Strong's Concordance for "errors" in Hebrews 9:7 (KJV): "
1) a sin committed through ignorance or thoughtlessness"
Check out the OT: "And the priest shall make an atonement for the soul that sinneth ignorantly, when he sinneth by ignorance before the LORD, to make an atonement for him; and it shall be forgiven him." Number 15:28
Hebrews 10:26: "For if we sin wilfully after that we have received the knowledge of the truth, there remaineth no more sacrifice for sins,"
Job 28:28 "And unto man he said, Behold, the fear of the Lord, that [is] wisdom; and to depart from evil [is] understanding."
Updated 10 hours ago · Comment · Like / Unlike
Thomas Richards
1 john 5:16 If any man see his brother sin a sin which is not unto death, he shall ask, and he shall give him life for them that sin not unto death. There is a sin unto death: I do not say that he shall pray for it. 17 All unrighteousness is sin: and there is a sin not unto death.
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Thomas Richards
sins NOT unto death are sins of ignorance.
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Comment:
From: A.D.
"hmmmm, define "ignorance." i know that poisoning your body in ignorance (welcome swine flu vaccine) still leads you down the same path as one who studies the subject and still chooses to get it...or by "ignorance" are you indicating a more child-like stupidity, like cheating at cards?"
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Thomas Richards
according to Strong's:
"Ignorantly"
1) to go astray, err, commit sin or errora) (Qal)... Read More1) to err (mentally)
2) to sin (ignorantly or inadvertently)
It's good to look at other verses that speak of ignorance in context.
Like Deu 19:4: "And this [is] the case of the slayer, which shall flee thither, that he may live: Whoso killeth his neighbour ignorantly, whom he hated not in time past."
or
1Ti 1:13 "Who was before a blasphemer, and a persecutor, and injurious: but I obtained mercy , because I did [it] ignorantly in unbelief."
This even shows further WHY Paul received forgiveness. He "obtained mercy, because" he did it in ignorance.
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in the last days perilous times shall come
This know also, that in the last days perilous times shall come.
For men shall be lovers of their own selves, covetous, boasters, proud, blasphemers, disobedient to parents, unthankful, unholy,
Without natural affection, trucebreakers, false accusers, incontinent, fierce, despisers of those that are good,
Traitors, heady, highminded, lovers of pleasures more than lovers of God;
Having a form of godliness, but denying the power thereof: from such turn away.
2 Timothy 3:1-5
For men shall be lovers of their own selves, covetous, boasters, proud, blasphemers, disobedient to parents, unthankful, unholy,
Without natural affection, trucebreakers, false accusers, incontinent, fierce, despisers of those that are good,
Traitors, heady, highminded, lovers of pleasures more than lovers of God;
Having a form of godliness, but denying the power thereof: from such turn away.
2 Timothy 3:1-5
Tony Alamo Guilty On All 10 Counts
Jurors convict evangelist on 10 sex-abuse counts
By JON GAMBRELL (AP) – 29 minutes ago
TEXARKANA, Ark. — Tony Alamo, a one-time street preacher who built a multimillion-dollar ministry and became an outfitter of the stars, was convicted Friday of taking girls as young as 9 across state lines for sex.
Alamo stood silently as the verdict was read, a contrast to his occasional mutterings during testimony. His five victims sat looking forward in the gallery. One, a woman he "married" at age 8, wiped away a tear.
"I'm just another one of the prophets that went to jail for the Gospel," Alamo called to reporters afterward as he was escorted to a waiting U.S. marshal's vehicle.
Shouts of "Bye, bye, Bernie" — Alamo was born Bernie Lazar Hoffman — came from a crowd gathered on the Arkansas side of the courthouse, which straddles the Texas-Arkansas border.
Jurors were convinced Alamo had had sex with the girls when they were underage, but deliberated for more than a day to ensure that they considered everything, jury foreman Frank Oller of Texarkana said.
"That was the evidence. That was proven," Oller said. "We came up with a full decision that we are quite satisfied with."
Defense lawyer Don Ervin said the evidence against the 74-year-old preacher was insufficient and that the preacher would appeal. He also said Alamo's criminal history — he served four years in prison on tax charges in the 1990s — "will hurt him" at sentencing in six to eight weeks.
"We believe he will face the rest of his natural life in prison," said Assistant U.S. Attorney Kyra Jenner. The penalties on the 10 charges total 175 years in prison, she said, and violations of the century-old Mann Act also carry fines of up to $250,000 each.
The five women, now age 17 to 33, told jurors that Alamo "married" them in private ceremonies while they were minors, sometimes giving them wedding rings. Each detailed trips beyond Arkansas' borders for Alamo's sexual gratification.
Alamo never testified. Though he announced to reporters that he wanted to, his lawyers told him he should not directly challenge their testimony and the attorneys argued to jurors that the girls traveled for legitimate church business.
State and federal agents raided Alamo's compound last Sept. 20 after repeated reports of abuse. Defense lawyers said the government targeted Alamo because it doesn't like his apocalyptic brand of Christianity. Alamo has blamed the Vatican for his legal troubles, which include a four-year prison term for tax evasion in the 1990s.
With little physical evidence, prosecutors relied on the women's stories to paint an emotional portrait of a charismatic religious leader who controlled every aspect of his subjects' lives. No one obtained food, clothing or transportation without him knowing about it.
At times, men were ordered away from the compound and their wives kept as another Alamo bride. Minor offenses from either gender drew beatings or starvation fasts.
In the end, prosecutors convinced jurors in Arkansas' conservative Christian climate that Alamo's ministry offered him the opportunity to prey on the young girls of loyal followers who believed him to be a prophet who spoke directly to God. They described a ministry that ran on the fear of drawing the anger of "Papa Tony."
"You really appreciate the courage that they showed stepping up to face their demons," said Thomas Browne, the special agent in charge of the FBI office at Little Rock.
Alamo remained defiant during the trial. He openly referred to the Branch Davidian raid at Waco, Texas, muttered expletives during testimony and fell asleep at times — while alleged victims spoke from the witness stand and again as prosecutors urged his conviction.
He had built his multistate ministry on the backs of followers who worked in various businesses to support the church. In the 1980s, he designed and sold elaborately decorated denim jackets, hobnobbed with celebrities and owned a compound in western Arkansas that featured a heart-shaped swimming pool.
Federal agents seized a large portion of his assets in the 1990s to settle tax claims after courts declared his operations a business, not a church. Among items offered for auction were the plans for the studded jacket Michael Jackson wore on his "Bad" album.
The Southern Poverty Law Center considers his ministry a cult.
The woman considered to be Alamo's common-law wife, Sharon Alamo, and several other of his 100-200 followers missed the verdict, hustling up the courthouse stairs and entering an empty courtroom five minutes after court adjourned.
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Jurors have found Tony Alamo guilty on all 10 counts of child-sex charges. Each count carries a minimum sentence of 10 years in prison and a $250,000 fine.
Jurors arrived at the Texarkana federal courthouse at 8:30 a.m. Friday. They spent 8 1/2 hours discussing the 10-count federal indictment against the 74-year-old Alamo on Thursday.
Jurors paused twice to ask questions of the judge. The court won't say what they were about. Alamo's attorneys said it was about clarification of the Mann Act.
Prosecutors allege Alamo took five underage girls across state lines for sex as far back as 1994. They claim one was as young as 9 and was "married" to the evangelist.
Defense attorneys say the girls traveled on legitimate business for Alamo's ministry, which espouses an apocalyptic form of Christianity.
Going on a hiatus
Here's what I now believe regarding Tony Alamo. I believe that he was marrying young girls, even as young as 8 years old. I DO NOT think that is of GOD. I think it's "molestation" and sin and criminal activity. But I DO NOT believe he is guilty of the charges of "BRINGING YOUNG GIRLS ACROSS STATE LINES FOR SEX"
These charges do seem odd. Why wouldn't they just charge him with criminal sexual abuse or something like that? There are probably answers to all this and so I don't want you to think I'm suggesting there isn't. I just don't have those answers.
So I'm writing this because I have been such an avid supporter of Tony Alamo in the past. That has now ended though. Even if Tony gets out of this and is found "not guilty" for "bringing young girls across state lines for sex" I will still believe he and the parents of that 8 year old girl are guilty on several counts of child abuse. And I blame any parents who knew about this "marriage" between Tony Alamo and this 8 year old girl and have not realized your error in accepting this.
in 1997-99 When I was at the church in Fort Smith Arkansas, I remember catching wind that a certain very young girl was going to "live with the sisters" in Texarkana. At that time I had a dream about the girl and in it the girl was standing in a dark blue satin dress with her hair done up with blue satin ribbons in her hair. The lights were dim and the feeling was if anything dismal. And that's it. It was a very odd and vivid dream and the dream stayed with me these 12 years. And I'm still wondering what it meant. If anything at all.
Maybe God was telling me there was a sad wedding ahead of her.
The story we are now hearing regarding this precious child (now young woman) breaks mine and my wife's hearts. And that's just the very beginning of these accusations against Alamo. What else is or isn't true about Tony?
So at this time I am readjusting. And when I am finished I will be better than ever. I know this. I wish everyone good health and happiness.
Thomas
These charges do seem odd. Why wouldn't they just charge him with criminal sexual abuse or something like that? There are probably answers to all this and so I don't want you to think I'm suggesting there isn't. I just don't have those answers.
So I'm writing this because I have been such an avid supporter of Tony Alamo in the past. That has now ended though. Even if Tony gets out of this and is found "not guilty" for "bringing young girls across state lines for sex" I will still believe he and the parents of that 8 year old girl are guilty on several counts of child abuse. And I blame any parents who knew about this "marriage" between Tony Alamo and this 8 year old girl and have not realized your error in accepting this.
in 1997-99 When I was at the church in Fort Smith Arkansas, I remember catching wind that a certain very young girl was going to "live with the sisters" in Texarkana. At that time I had a dream about the girl and in it the girl was standing in a dark blue satin dress with her hair done up with blue satin ribbons in her hair. The lights were dim and the feeling was if anything dismal. And that's it. It was a very odd and vivid dream and the dream stayed with me these 12 years. And I'm still wondering what it meant. If anything at all.
Maybe God was telling me there was a sad wedding ahead of her.
The story we are now hearing regarding this precious child (now young woman) breaks mine and my wife's hearts. And that's just the very beginning of these accusations against Alamo. What else is or isn't true about Tony?
So at this time I am readjusting. And when I am finished I will be better than ever. I know this. I wish everyone good health and happiness.
Thomas
The Faces of Meth and a Foster Parent
Attention, This is a 2016 edit of this page. It has been exposed that "Faces of Meth" is propaganda tailor made for the bogus war on drugs. Also read this (Crack Then. Meth Now.) for your own education. It turns out Meth is actually virtually the same drug as Adderall which is liberally prescribed by doctors all over the world. Please read this article and this article to read the details.
But that doesn't remove the hypocrisy of state agencies and people involved in the story below.

This woman looks as if she lost her soul.. Look at more pics
Look at what a former Meth Lab did to a family's health after they moved into the house. ~Story
Now read this article:
"Lawton foster mother arrested after meth lab found in home with kids"
Michigan authorities removed two children from a licensed Van Buren County foster mother Tuesday evening after finding an active meth lab in the home.
The lab was discovered when the Lawton Police Department, assisted by other agencies, investigated possible methamphetamine production and found evidence in the home’s basement.
That’s when police also discovered that the small children were placed with the 51-year-old foster mother, the Van Buren County Sheriff’s Department said in a press release.
They were returned to Child Protective Services for relocation by Berrien County, since that’s where their custody cases originate.
Police plan to file meth manufacturing charges against the woman, whose name has not been publicly released.
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I wish Foster Homes would be overly scrutinized like parents are..
But that doesn't remove the hypocrisy of state agencies and people involved in the story below.

This woman looks as if she lost her soul.. Look at more pics
Look at what a former Meth Lab did to a family's health after they moved into the house. ~Story
Now read this article:
"Lawton foster mother arrested after meth lab found in home with kids"
Michigan authorities removed two children from a licensed Van Buren County foster mother Tuesday evening after finding an active meth lab in the home.
The lab was discovered when the Lawton Police Department, assisted by other agencies, investigated possible methamphetamine production and found evidence in the home’s basement.
That’s when police also discovered that the small children were placed with the 51-year-old foster mother, the Van Buren County Sheriff’s Department said in a press release.
They were returned to Child Protective Services for relocation by Berrien County, since that’s where their custody cases originate.
Police plan to file meth manufacturing charges against the woman, whose name has not been publicly released.
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I wish Foster Homes would be overly scrutinized like parents are..
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